Bank of Ireland caves in to public pressure waters down cash limit rules

Bank of Ireland has caved in to public pressure following a public outcry over its plans to heavily restrict cash transactions in its branches, via Irish Independent.

The bank came in for sustained criticism after the Irish Independent revealed yesterday that it plans to restrict over-the-counter cash withdrawals to a minimum of €700 and cash lodgements to a minimum of €3,000 in an effort to push customers towards using ATMs and self-service machines.

However, after criticism from Finance Minister Michael Noonan, as well as groups representing consumers, farmers, older people, rural dwellers and bank workers, the bank conceded that what it called “vulnerable” customers could continue to get cash and make withdrawals of smaller amounts of money at branch counters.

The changes prompted fears of a renewed bout of bank branch closures and staff lay-offs in the wake of the bank’s move to severely restrict counter-based cash transactions.

Mr Noonan described the changes as “surprising and unnecessary”, adding that he expects the bank to “fully honour” its commitment to “vulnerable customers”.

Bank of Ireland said it would continue to allow older customers and those unfamiliar with technology to make cash transactions over the counter.

“Bank of Ireland would like to confirm that vulnerable customers, together with those elderly customers who are not comfortable using self-service channels or other technology solutions, will be assisted by branch staff to use the available in-branch services.”

However, other banks are now expected to follow the lead of Bank of Ireland by moving to set strict limits on over-the-counter cash handling.

It comes after around 200 bank branches were closed, mainly in rural areas, during the financial collapse, with at least 10,000 retail bank staff laid-off.

Banks including Bank of Scotland, Danske, ACC and Irish Nationwide have already closed, limiting banking options for customers.

Now there are concerns that the move by Bank of Ireland to effectively become a cashless bank will prompt more branch shut-downs and redundancies.

Deputy chairman of the Consumers Association Michael Kilcoyne said other banks were set to mirror Bank of Ireland and discourage customers from withdrawing and lodging cash over the counter.

This would make branches in rural areas less viable, he warned.

“The implications of the Bank of Ireland move are very severe. If it gets away with this it will get rid of more staff and close branches.

“This will be a further blow for rural Ireland,” he said.

Mr Kilcoyne predicted that AIB, Ulster Bank and Permanent TSB would make similar moves to curtail cash handling.

And banking union IBOA said it is seeking a meeting with Bank of Ireland boss Richie Boucher over concerns the changes would mean more job losses.

The Irish Farmers’ Association said the changes would cause great difficulty for some farmers who are not familiar with the bank’s online system.

Age Action accused the bank of ignoring the needs of older people by setting high limits on over-the-counter transactions.

The Fragility Of Freedom In The Digital Age [Podcast]

We look at developments in Greece, a recent speech from the RBA and the latest on the cash restriction bill. What are we giving up?

https://www.rba.gov.au/speeches/2019/sp-gov-2019-12-10.html

https://www.tornosnews.gr/en/greek-news/economy/38055-greeks-must-pay-more-online-or-face-fines-in-campaign-to-curb-tax-evasion.html

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The Fragility Of Freedom In The Digital Age [Podcast]
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The Fragility Of Freedom In The Digital Age

We look at developments in Greece, a recent speech from the RBA and the latest on the cash restriction bill. What are we giving up?

https://www.rba.gov.au/speeches/2019/sp-gov-2019-12-10.html

https://www.tornosnews.gr/en/greek-news/economy/38055-greeks-must-pay-more-online-or-face-fines-in-campaign-to-curb-tax-evasion.html

The Cash Ban Cowards Can’t Hide The Truth! [Podcast]

Today the Senate held their first hearing (at short notice) on the Cash Restrictions Bill. I discuss the lead up and hearing with Robbie Barwick.

Note the next hearing has been scheduled for SYDNEY on 29th January 2020! https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Economics/CurrencyCashBill2019

You can watch the full sessions via ParlView: http://parlview.aph.gov.au/browse.php

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The Cash Ban Cowards Can’t Hide The Truth!

Today the Senate held their first hearing (at short notice) on the Cash Restrictions Bill.

I discuss the lead up and hearing with Robbie Barwick.

Note the next hearing has been scheduled for SYDNEY on 29th January 2020!

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Economics/CurrencyCashBill2019

You can watch the full sessions via ParlView: http://parlview.aph.gov.au/browse.php

Adam And I Chat…

I was interviewed by Adam Stokes who runs his own YT channel, mainly covering Crypto. This is my version of the discussion.

The show covered a wide range of issues, from Crypto, Central Banks, Cash Bans and Negative Rates through to politics and democracy.

Adam’s version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWzhuqM_aoU

Check out his channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/adamstokes224

Is a cashless society worth it?

As the country continues its inexorable march towards a cashless society, it’s important to remember the downsides. Via The Adviser.

Australia has been just a few years away from being a cashless society for a couple of decades now, but it will eventually get there. Legislation currently before the Senate aims to ban transactions over $10,000 in a bid to hinder the black economy. From there, it’s not difficult to imagine that the ubiquity of digital payment systems – and efforts the by government – will see hard cash disappear at some point in the future. 

One of the supposed benefits of a cashless society is that it cuts down on crime, the logic being that if there’s less cash to steal, less cash is stolen. Laundering dirty money is also harder, as every transaction is logged in some form or another. 

But a cashless society comes with a number of negatives that might well outweigh the positives. 

“As payments move online, there would be an increased risk of crimes such as identity theft, account takeover, fraudulent transactions and data breaches, due to the higher volume of cashless transactions and more points of exposure for the average consumer,” Dr Richard Harmon, managing director of financial services at Cloudera, told Investor Daily.

“Hackers and other criminals now have new ways to get access to accounts and to potentially set up synthetic accounts to facilitate more sophisticated money laundering activities.”

And that’s just the risk posed by hackers. According to the UK’s access to cash report, a cashless society could heighten the risks of financial abuse. Elderly people, who might lack understanding of digital technology, would be particularly vulnerable. Couples with joint bank accounts are also at risk – money can be tracked and controlled by one person. These issues are already of great concern, but they’d be even worse in a cashless society. 

That’s not to mention that digital systems rely on topnotch digital infrastructure, something that Australia doesn’t exactly have in spades. That infrastructure also has to be more or less impervious to cyber attacks, which may be carried out by state-sponsored actors with an interest in crippling a country’s entire financial system. In the face of that existential threat to the economy, a little bit of money laundering doesn’t seem so bad. 

A cashless society could also make things worse for workers and the most vulnerable. It’s only a short jump from cashless to “cashier-less”, and a cashless society would have to deal with an explosion of unemployed low-skill individuals. 

Meanwhile, those who lack access to banks – or prefer not to use them – are also at risk. 

“Let me highlight that one of the concerns about becoming a cashless society – at least as we transition into this state – is the ability for the underbanked or unbanked to have sufficient access to function properly as they would within a cash-based system,” Dr Harmon said.

“This would be a key concern from a societal perspective.”

The idea of a cashless society is promising. But hidden in that promise are a number of caveats that any country – let alone Australia – would be foolish to ignore.

Limiting cash payments to $10,000 is more dangerous than you might think

From The Conversation. We are used to being able to pay for things with legal tender.

Other than in special circumstances, refusing to accept cash can have legal consequences.

The Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019 at present before the Senate seeks to make it an offence to use “too much cash” to pay your bills.

The intent is clearly stated in Section 4:

This Act places restrictions on the use of cash or cash-like products within the Australian economy. The Act imposes criminal offences if an entity makes or accepts cash payments in circumstances that breach the restrictions.

The proposed limit is A$10,000. Section 8 would make it an offence to make or accept cash payments of $10,000 occurring either as one-offs or in a linked sequence.

Extract from Currency (Restrictions on the Use of Cash) Bill 2019

In parliament the minister said the $10,000 limit would not apply to person-to-person transactions, such as private sales of cars.

But these exceptions are not included in the the Bill. What is included is the phrase “specified by the rules”. Section 20 puts those rules in the minister’s hands. Future ministers may narrow exceptions and change rules.

It would remain legal to withdraw and hold more than $10,000. The stated intent of this Bill is to modify the use of cash, not the holding of cash.

All Australians will continue to be able to deposit and withdraw cash in excess of $10,000 into and from their accounts, and to store more than $10,000 of their money outside a bank.

Cash overboard

What’s proposed would limit competition (Visa, Mastercard, and PayPal would face a lesser competitor, for example) and limit long-held rights.

Everyday behaviour at present protected by the law would be criminalised.

In some cases, and perhaps many, the onus of proof would be reversed, with an “evidential burden” imposed on cash-using defendants.

As stunning is the assignment of “vicarious criminal liability” in Section 16.

Each partner in a partnership, each committee member of an incorporated association and each trustee of a trust or superannuation fund might become individually culpable for their entity’s use of cash.

Oddly, “bodies corporate and bodies politic” are treated differently (Part 3), and the government itself cannot be prosecuted, an uneven application of the law which has attracted little attention.

In my submission to the Senate inquiry (Submission 146) I argue the provisions would, among other things:

  • undercut the ability of banks to head off a banking crisis by providing a trusted and useful form of money
  • funnel more financial traffic through the equivalent of private toll roads
  • remove a guaranteed and always available fallback from electronic transactions
  • increase societal ill-ease and polarisation as citizens realise their rights have been eroded for not particularly compelling stated reasons.

Each point and many presented in other submissions need serious consideration, including in public Senate hearings.

The rationale presented

The speech to parliament introducing the bill was built around the hardly-new observation that cash payments can be “anonymous and untraceable”.

The government’s Black Economy Taskforce produced no detailed analysis but recommended the ban as a means of fighting tax avoidance, to:

make it more difficult to under-report income or charge lower prices and not remit good and services tax.

The speech also asserted that “more crucially” the ban would fight organised crime syndicates, although organised crime was not mentioned in the part of the taskforce report that dealt with the problem the limit was meant to address.

The guarantee dishonoured

Every pound note and then every dollar note issued by the Commonwealth Bank and then Reserve Bank of Australia bears this unconditional promise signed by the head of the bank and the head of the treasury:

This Australian note is legal tender throughout Australia and its territories.

The bank’s website suggests the promise is ongoing:

All previous issues of Australian banknotes retain their legal tender status.

Its note printing arm was mortified earlier this year at the apparently accidental omission of the last letter “i” from the word “responsibility” on the new more secure $50 note.

The Bill before the Senate contains many and much more serious errors.

Cash has been one of the few things we can absolutely rely on, whatever our status, situation or access to other payment means.

Removing (and dishonouring) that guarantee, while criminalising reliance on it, should not be done lightly in a mad rush to an arbitrary date.

Until now public debate about the proposal has been light, but concern is growing, even among quiet Australians.

Each Senator should ensure that last “i” in responsibility isn’t missing here either.

Author: Mark McGovern, Visiting Fellow, QUT Business School, Economics and Finance, Queensland University of Technology

A Spanner In The Works!

We discuss the machinery of Government in the light of the cash restriction bill. How come 2,600+ submissions are judged as not relevant?

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Economics/Legislation_Committee_Membership

https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6418

Committee Members